A Year of Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood — Review, Inter­view & Book Giveaway!!!


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Last year is when I first heard about a strange project : a Ten­nessee blog­ger was embark­ing on a one-​​year com­mit­ment to live out the bib­li­cal direc­tives aimed at women as an effort to demon­strate “bib­li­cal wom­an­hood.” The result is Rachel Held Evans’ new book, A Year of Bib­li­cal
Wom­an­hood : How a Lib­er­ated Woman Found Her­self Sit­ting on Her Roof, Cov­er­ing Her Head, and Call­ing Her Hus­band Mas­ter.
( I love long titles! Seri­ously, I do!)

Rachel’s book is a record of dif­fer­ent antics she sub­mit­ted her­self to as she took the words of the Bible lit­er­ally. Pas­sages like Proverbs 31 where the vir­tu­ous woman is described as being the ulti­mate domes­tic god­dess who man­ages her house­hold with the skill of Martha Stew­art is one exam­ple. Rachel deter­mined that to try to emu­late the Proverbs 31 woman she would need to brush up on her domes­tic skills. Armed with a Martha Stew­art cook­book, she set out to learn how to cook meals that were far above her reper­toire. This may sound silly, but every good Chris­t­ian woman knows that home­mak­ing and kitchen tal­ent is cod­i­fied in the col­lec­tive con­scious of the faith­ful. Rachel notes this by quot­ing con­tribut­ing writer, Dorothy Pat­ter­son from the guide on tra­di­tional roles, Recov­er­ing Bib­li­cal Man­hood and Wom­an­hood.
She writes:

This photo from Rachel’s web­site shows her with a pan of freshly made “matza tof­fee.writes:

(Pat­ter­son) con­cludes from these two pas­sages that “keep­ing the house is God’s assign­ment to the wife – even down to chang­ing the sheets, doing the laun­dry, and scrub­bing the floors.” Ambi­tions that might lead a woman to work out­side the home, says Pat­ter­son, con­sti­tute the kind of “evil desires” that lead directly to sin. — A Year of Bib­li­cal Womanhood

It is this world­view that Rachel deter­mined to chal­lenge, and rather than stop with a few well-​​written blog posts, she thought of a cre­ative way to really get her point across while at the same time brush­ing up on her cook­ing skills, a bonus accord­ing to hus­band Dan.

Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood, as I call this book to keep it short and sim­ple, is a smart and humor­ous jour­ney of a curi­ous writer who chooses to wres­tle out one of the most polar­iz­ing issues in the Amer­i­can church today : the role of women. Early in the book, Rachel describes her South­ern upbring­ing in a churched fam­ily that was not rigid about tra­di­tional roles. She men­tions her mom a few times through­out the book. “The only peo­ple who enjoy potlucks are men. Women do all the work,” says her mom writes Rachel.

These glimpses of Rachel’s grow­ing up years and later her col­lege years gives con­text to how the church shaped her per­spec­tive on the debate of women and roles and lead­er­ship and also to why this is such an impor­tant issue to Rachel. She is a cham­pion for women’s equality.

The book is funny. Rachel has some great one liner’s pep­pered through­out the book, sort of remind­ing me of humor writer, Erma Bombeck Rachel’s humor is inci­sive, yet not sharp. Like this quip:

We evan­gel­i­cals have a nasty habit of throw­ing the word bib­li­cal around like it’s Mar­tin Luther’s mid­dle name.

Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood is a fast read. All through­out the sto­ry­telling and sur­prise zingers, Rachel shares her reflec­tions about the stereo­typ­i­cal Chris­t­ian woman. She dis­man­tles it, bit by frilly bit, show­ing that under­neath the rules and roles and pre­sump­tions about Bible com­mands, that there is no one-​​size fits all bib­li­cal woman tem­plate. For some read­ers, this is not a rush of rev­e­la­tion. But for a Ten­nessee blog­ger find­ing her way through the jun­gle of rhetoric as the war on women wages within (and out­side) the church, Rachel does many women a great ser­vice by show­cas­ing how absurd it is for all women (let alone any woman!) to try to live up to an ideal that we were never meant to live up to in the first place. This is a pow­er­house of a book writ­ten with can­dor, humor and just the right amount of the­ol­ogy to keep it from get­ting bogged down. I hap­pily rec­om­mend it.

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I was able to catch Rachel before her whirl­wind pro­mo­tion of her book kicked in. Here is a short email inter­view she kindly agreed to. Be sure to check out details at the end of the inter­view of how you can win a free copy of her book. We have three to give away!

Me: At the end of A Year of Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood, you write that you were look­ing for a story when you embarked on your project and the story you found was a deep desire for per­mis­sion to be a woman. A Year of Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood project helped free you from need­ing per­mis­sion to be a woman and to Just Be. What were some key moments that led to this realization?

Rachel : One of the most lib­er­at­ing parts of the exper­i­ment for me was redis­cov­er­ing the sto­ries of cel­e­brated women from Scrip­ture — and not just the ones we hear about grow­ing up in Sun­day school, but women like Deb­o­rah, Hul­dah, Jael, Miriam, Vashti, Ruth, Esther, Mary of Bethany, Mary Mag­da­lene, Junia, Priscilla, Tabitha and Phoebe. What I found was that each of these women hon­ored God in a dif­fer­ent way, that they showed incred­i­ble brav­ery and faith that tran­scended their cul­ture, their cir­cum­stances, and their sta­tus as women in a patri­ar­chal world.

Chris­t­ian women are often told that their lives should look like car­bon copies of the woman cel­e­brated in Proverbs 31, and too often, the focus is on the ele­ments of that acros­tic poem that fea­ture the domes­tic accom­plish­ments of an upper-​​class ancient Near East­ern wife (keep­ing the home, pro­vid­ing food for the fam­ily, weav­ing from dawn until dark). But that misses the point of the text entirely! Proverbs 31 is not a to-​​list describ­ing what a woman is sup­posed to get done in a given day; it’s a poem cel­e­brat­ing what a woman has already accom­plished! It’s meant to honor a woman’s daily acts of valor, which is why the poem begins, “a woman of valor who can find?” (The Hebrew is eshet chayil — woman of valor).

What’s inter­est­ing is that the bib­li­cal hero­ine Ruth too is iden­ti­fied as a “woman of valor” (eshet chayil). And she is iden­ti­fied as such before is mar­ried, before she has chil­dren, and before she had a pot to pee in. In fact, you could argue that Ruth had the oppo­site lifestyle of the Proverbs 31 woman, since she was poor, wid­owed, and childless….and yet she too is iden­ti­fied as a “woman of valor.”

So as my explo­ration of these women went on, I began to see that being a woman of valor isn’t about what you do, but how you do it. It’s not about squeez­ing into a mold or a par­tic­u­lar lifestyle; it’s about liv­ing your life with char­ac­ter and brav­ery. It’s about liv­ing your life as the woman God cre­ated you to be.

Me: In your intro and through­out your book, you refer to your mom who pro­vided you with a Chris­t­ian upbring­ing. All the sto­ries about your child­hood sug­gest that though the mes­sag­ing of ide­al­ized bib­li­cal wom­an­hood was absorbed in church and rein­forced in col­lege, this was not the case in your home. Did you have con­ver­sa­tions at home with your mother or sis­ter about these things dur­ing your grow­ing up years? What about now? What did your mom think of your bib­li­cal wom­an­hood project ?

Rachel: My mom is awe­some. She never really fit into the per­ceived mold of the South­ern Chris­t­ian woman, and I love her for that! (She used to com­plain about how men were the only ones who enjoyed church potlucks because the women were always stuck doing all the work.) So I think I got a lot of my…chutzpah…from her, and I’m grate­ful. She and my dad have shown unwa­ver­ing sup­port for me, even when my pas­sion for gen­der equal­ity in the Church has set me at odds with evan­gel­i­cal lead­ers who are respected in their cir­cles. Same goes for my sis­ter, who, even though she is younger than me, I look up to as a model of valor and grace. We Held women have always been opin­ion­ated and strong, and we’ve always sur­rounded our­selves with men who aren’t intim­i­dated by that. So I think gen­der equal­ity has hap­pened nat­u­rally in our homes. The trick is see­ing it played out in the church.

Me: Your book is some­what mem­oiresque con­cern­ing your mar­riage. Your hus­band Dan is fea­tured a lot in the book includ­ing excerpts from his jour­nal dur­ing the time of your wom­an­hood project. In some ways, your book is as much about mar­riage as it is about a woman’s iden­tity. Did you intend this or is that where the writ­ing took you?

Rachel: We knew from the begin­ning that the project would turn a spot­light on our mar­riage, and we were a lit­tle ner­vous about that at first. But what the project did, in the end, was remind us of how happy we are func­tion­ing as a team of equal part­ners rather than as a hier­ar­chy. When I took some of those “sub­mis­sion” pas­sages lit­er­ally and out of con­text (as com­ple­men­tar­i­ans tend to do), Dan was just as uncom­fort­able as I was impos­ing a gender-​​based hier­ar­chy onto our mar­riage, believe me. At one point he “ordered” me to stop sub­mit­ting! So we both emerged from the project more appre­cia­tive of our rela­tion­ships, and happy to get back to nor­mal and just be our­selves. Impos­ing hier­ar­chy onto a part­ner­ship is dis­ori­ent­ing and unnec­es­sary, and I ache or all the cou­ples who feel like they have to do that because some­one told them that the Bible requires it.

Me: Every writer I know har­bors hopes and fears for the books they write. What are some of the hopes and fear you have for this book?

Rachel: I hope that A Year of Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood will make peo­ple laugh. It includes a bunch of funny sto­ries (and pic­tures!) from my adven­tures in fol­low­ing all the Bible’s instruc­tions for women as lit­er­ally as pos­si­ble for a year…so I hope it enter­tains! I also hope that it helps lib­er­ate women from this idea that there’s just one right way to be a woman of faith, that “bib­li­cal wom­an­hood” means keep­ing the home and sub­mit­ting to men.

My fear, of course, is that it will be mis­un­der­stood. I think every writer wor­ries about that. I fear that peo­ple will judge it with­out read­ing it, that they will think I’m mak­ing fun of the Bible, when noth­ing could be fur­ther from the truth. I took on this project pre­cisely because I love the Bible, and I was tired of see­ing it reduced to a list of rules and roles when it came to some­thing as impor­tant and beau­ti­ful as womanhood.

Many thanks to Rachel for offer­ing my blog read­ers some insights into her book. For more info about A Year of Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood check out Rachel’s blog, and if you don’t already sub­scribe to it, Do It !!

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Rachel’s pub­lisher has offered to mail a book to three read­ers of this blog. So cool, right?!

Here’s what you need to do to try to score one of these copies:

  • Leave a com­ment Tell me what you think of this idea of “bib­li­cal womanhood.”


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I will choose three com­men­tors based entirely on my sub­jec­tive pow­ers. Get your com­ment posted by Thurs­day, 12:00pm PST time. Click here to con­vert your time. Win­ners announced in Friday’s post. I will email win­ners for your mail­ing addresses to for­ward to the publisher.

Super excited. This is the first time I’ve offered a book give­away. I look for­ward to your com­ments. Who knew bib­li­cal wom­an­hood could be such a hot topic?

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A Year of Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood — Review, Inter­view & Book Giveaway!!! — 56 Comments

  1. Pingback: a blt Biblical Studies Carnival « BLT

  2. We have our win­ners!!! To see if YOU won, check in at my lat­est post, HERetic of the Week. Win­ners announced at the top. And while you’re there,be sure to read the inter­view I did with Jo Hilder, a won­der­ful writer and blog­ger from Aus­tralia. She kicks up the patri­ar­chal dust with this inter­view. Not to be missed. Here’s the LINK

  3. Just added your blog to my Google Reader. So much to encour­age me here. I left a very male-​​oriented church sys­tem this year after 49 years in it, and the free­dom in Christ I’m now enjoy­ing “out here” is delicious.

  4. Thanks all for your com­ments and thoughts on bib­li­cal wom­an­hood. IF you have not yet pre­ordered Rachel’s book, I encour­age you to go for it (and while you’re at it, order my Unla­dy­like book too. Great companions!)

    Instead of just pick­ing three win­ners I will instead put everyone’s name in a hat and have my son help me pick. So many great com­ments there. I can’t just pick three on my own. I’d give every­one a copy if I could!

    I have to head to my shift at the hos­pi­tal. When I get home tonight, I’ll have my son Jeremy help me draw a win­ner. Win­ners announced in tomorrow’s edi­tion of HERetic of the Week (who I am SO excited to share with you. She’s an Aussie lady with a lot of sass !!)

    New read­ers wel­come to add com­ments to keep the con­ver­sa­tion going. I will look at time stamps to know who made it to the 12p cut off.

    And an extra big thank you to those folks who signed up for my newslet­ter and sub­scribed to my blog. These are not just pro­mo­tional ploys, but ways to build up my con­tact with my blog com­mu­nity. I spend a lot of time read­ing blogs and writ­ing on my own. I want to build up these con­nec­tions with read­ers and other writ­ers. Blog­ging can be a lonely road. Your will­ing­ness to con­nect back to me helps ease the iso­la­tion. Seriously!

    So thanks again every­one for such a great turn out for Rachel’s book. It was fun to do this and I will look for oppor­tu­ni­ties to have more give­aways. Blessings!!

  5. For sev­eral years, I’ve been for­tu­nate enough to live in a world where “Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood” is a mostly irrel­e­vant term.

    I own my own busi­ness, and over­see sev­eral employ­ees– it would not occur to any of them to doubt my capa­bil­i­ties based on gen­der (though I’m chal­lenged daily to be a bet­ter leader, employer, and neighbor).

    I preach at least a few times per year in my church, where equal­ity is a given (but when I was stu­dent chap­lain of a chris­t­ian col­lege, my sched­uled time at the pul­pit was mys­te­ri­ously cancelled).

    I am about to get mar­ried to a man who deeply rec­og­nizes, appre­ci­ates, and advo­cates against the lim­i­ta­tions that our cul­ture puts on both gen­ders. Unlike me, he did not grow up in the church, and more often than I’d like to admit, he notices me accept­ing the shame, pres­sure, or judg­ment from not liv­ing up to this stan­dard I’ve unwit­tingly inher­ited from grow­ing up in the church (despite my best efforts to let go).

    I still rec­og­nize that the legacy of “Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood” is ever behind me, nip­ping at my heels– when I don’t bring a pie to a party, when I for­get to send out thank you cards, when the dishes pile up, when the neg­a­tive voice of self talk starts ques­tion­ing if I am good enough. I live in a world beyond it, but am still haunted by it. Con­ver­sa­tions like these, and the com­mu­ni­ties that are cre­ated by them, are what encour­age me that my world is get­ting big­ger and less haunted.

    • Mary, so beau­ti­fully stated. Thank you for shar­ing your story. I am con­vinced that as we speak up and out we inspire one another towards being our authen­tic selves. Thank you for inspir­ing me !!! (Sun­day din­ner this week? Look for a text!)

  6. I’m excited to read the book, I’ve always found RHE to be thought­ful, artic­u­late, and bold — all qual­i­tied I appre­ci­ate, and wish I had more of myself!

  7. I can’t wait to read Rachel’s book! I loved this inter­view you did. I’m even more excited to learn that there’s plenty of humor in the book. I agree with Al’s com­ment above. Humor can make it eas­ier to look at things that can be chal­leng­ing otherwise.

  8. The more inter­views I read about this book, the more I want to read it!
    I love the way RHE describes REAL bib­li­cal wom­an­hood: liv­ing out our call­ings to be women who love deeply. Love our God, love our friends/​families, love our com­mu­ni­ties, love the world… all for His King­dom pur­poses. That’s what it is about, not our mar­i­tal sta­tus or moth­er­hood or sub­mit­ting. It’s about the courage to do what­ever He has called us to no mat­ter what oth­ers might say.

    She’s kind of the Lau­ren Gra­ham of the Chris­t­ian blo­gos­phere: gutsy, smart, witty, quick humor… but also might have you sigh­ing at the beauty of her words and maybe a lit­tle teary occasionally. :)

    • @Jenna, GREAT! I hope you will read it. Per­son­able, humor­ous, insightful.…she’s a hel­luva writer! I’m not famil­iar with lau­ren gra­ham. will have to look her up. thanks for your com­ment and for reading!

  9. Thanks for your review Pam! I’ve been read­ing a bit of the “comp” side of the up-​​roar over Rachel’s book. The review I read sounded like the per­son writ­ing was fol­low­ing a check box of what “wrong” things she expected to see, and then put in a plug for the “true wom­an­hood” movement…as if we all need to go back to the ’50’s to be a right­eous woman. *sigh*

    I’d love a copy of this book to be able to share with the phi­los­o­phy depart­ment where I go to school. One of the com­ment I got from the pro­fes­sor who is the head of woman’s stud­ies said “Well, if Chris­tian­ity is done right it is very egal­i­tar­ian.” So even the Athe­ists “get it.”

  10. I am really look­ing for­ward to this book. I believe that Bib­li­cal wom­an­hood means being like Jesus, and that totally tran­scends cul­tural expectations!

    • @Don, so good that you have your Ama­zon review up. I love it when I hear broth­ers like your­selves read­ing books like this.…and btw, I hope you’ll con­sider read­ing my book, Unla­dy­like: Resist­ing the Injus­tice of Inequal­ity in the Church. I have a dif­fer­ent pur­pose for my book than Rachel did, but I think you might like it. It is endorsed by Mimi Had­dad of CBE and is also a resource in the CBE book­store. I hope you’ll read it and review it !!

      Thanks for com­ing by and commenting !

  11. Dumb ques­tion from a non-​​technical per­son — I clicked on the link to sub­scribe, and I clicked on the sub­scribe but­ton, but noth­ing hap­pens. How do I know if I’m sub­scribed? Will I get a con­fir­ma­tion email or anything?

    • Hi BH Girl, No, not a dumb ques­tion and I’m glad you brought it up. I just changed my feed ser­vice so I appre­ci­ate hear­ing how it is operating.

      I just checked it and saw what you mean. Noth­ing does hap­pen. If you wouldn’t mind, go back and click it again, but this time click the blue email icon. Then click the Feed­blitz icon and it will take you to the sub­scrip­tion options. I had no idea there were these “extra” steps to sub­scribe. I will look into how to make this a one-​​click opt in rather than the cur­rent 3-​​click oper­a­tion. Though I know this is not a really big deal (can ya say First World Pain??!!) but I do want to make it easy for my readers.

      Thanks so much for bring­ing it to my atten­tion. I hope you’ll try again!!

  12. Your review actu­ally makes the book sound more inter­est­ing than I thought it would be — I’d like to read it now! I would say that I’m a “bib­li­cal woman” — but I don’t cover my head, sit on my roof or call my hus­band “mas­ter” and I have no desire to read a book about some­one who does. But if Rachel’s book is actu­ally a *decon­struc­tion* of that image then, yeah, I could get inter­ested in that!

    And another shout-​​out for Julian of Nor­wich — she’s great!

    • Hi Eliz­abby, that is a great com­pli­ment to my review when it changes someone’s mind. Thank you!!! Yes, Rachel’s book is def­i­nitely a decon­struc­tion of the stereo­type, but she doesn’t stop there. She brings the reader full cir­cle to the lib­er­a­tion of being the unique woman God has cre­ated you to be rather than try­ing to be a one-​​size fits all Chris­t­ian woman.

      And yes, I’m a Julian of Nor­wich fan as well. I need to reread some of her stuff. I bet she had NO IDEA that her writ­ings would sur­vive as long as they have. Go Julian!

  13. Oh my good­ness! I have so been look­ing for­ward to the release of her new book. I’m sure she tack­les it with grace and style, and humor as I’ve seen on her blog.

    My per­cep­tion of “Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood” is a very strong, per­son­able lady who knows what her her needs/​wants are and how to fill them, her family’s needs/​wants and her community’s as well. She’s able to net­work and get things mov­ing and done, whether or not the men pull it together. Women like Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel, Leah, Tzip­po­rah, Deb­o­rah, Jael, Han­nah… and on and on.

    Most unfor­tu­nately though, this is not at all the view of bib­li­cal wom­an­hood that most of Chris­tian­ity has. :/

    • Hi J.S. so glad you are famil­iar with Rachel’s writ­ing style and voice. Yes, her book def­i­nitely is HER voice. I like your descrip­tion of what comes to your mind with this con­cept of bib­li­cal wom­an­hood, though obvi­ously you are not declar­ing it an ideal. This is where Rachel’s book comes in — she is chal­leng­ing the tribe of Chris­tians who INSIST on an ideal of a woman that is uni­ver­sal for every­one. Like the True Wom­an­hood project. Google it. Ugh. I get what they are say­ing, and there are so many won­der­ful attrib­utes in their lan­guage of a “true woman.” How­ever, just as women come in all kinds of shapes and sizes, so too do women come in all kinds of expres­sions of their unique way of fol­low­ing Jesus and liv­ing out a life of faith. It is unfor­tu­nate that reli­gious con­vic­tions divide rather than inspire mutual respect of one another’s inter­pre­ta­tion of bib­li­cal prin­ci­ples. I am a huge fan of Rachel’s book in using a humor­ous approach to turn­ing a stereo­typ­i­cal image of a Chris­t­ian woman upside down.

      Thanks for reading!!

      • Amen!
        I’ve been quite dis­heart­ened to see how peo­ple are pick­ing poor Rachel apart left and right and call­ing her such awful names.

        I’ve been force-​​fed the whole “Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood” idea my entire life and I started buck­ing it big time 12 years ago, but it took mov­ing over­seas to really dig my heels in and dig deeper. I’ve been very thank­ful to find your blog (and book!!!) as well as Rachel and many oth­ers as of late.

  14. I lis­tened to Rachel’s talk at Mars Hill and love the shar­ing on the last chap­ter about mourn­ing women who have been vic­tims – I know the young lady that cre­ated the shadow box and ADORE that lovely sweet young lady.

    • Hi Kathy.….yes, that last chap­ter was so good, so thought­ful and what a beau­ti­ful way to honor the name­less vic­tims of vio­lence writ­ten in our Bibles. In my more than 30 years of hear­ing Bible teach­ing and ser­mons I have not once heard a teach­ing on how to grap­ple with a sacred text that will record vio­lence towards women but remain silent about it. Rachel ref­er­ences Phyl­lis Trible’s small but bril­liant book, Texts of Ter­ror, who totally con­fronts these trou­bling incon­sis­ten­cies in the bible. I dont’ remem­ber Trib­ble land­ing on redemp­tive response like Rachel does though.

      Loved the art lady right away. I do art too and as soon as I saw the photo in the book of the shadow box she made in their honor I thought, Wow, I want to make some­thing to honor women of the Bible too. Will def be think­ing of an oppor­tu­nity to do this.

      Thanks for pop­ping by the blog and thanks for sub­scrib­ing too! (one reader pointed out that it has been con­fus­ing sub­scrib­ing. Can you give me feed­back. I’m using a new feed ser­vice and if the sub­scrip­tion process is not clear I want to resolve that. Thanks!)

      • I’m so enjoy­ing fol­low­ing this thread! :-D

        I can’t find the com­ment that appeared in my inbox — it wasn’t in reply to me any­way, but Pam, when you men­tioned the ‘Texts of Ter­ror’ I got more goose­bumps. I read it last year (it belongs to my husband).

        My desire as a woman who has been the vic­tim of ter­ror (too many times :-/​ ) is to share what I have learned of Jesus and *his* response to women and use it as the back­drop to these awful ‘texts of ter­ror’ as well as Chris­tianised inequal­ity (goose­bumps all over again!). I am cur­rently attempt­ing to write my own *fic­tional* take on the Hagar story (who always gets for­got­ten). I will also do a mod­ern ver­sion (fic­tion is my thing really). How inter­estng that you have read that same (rather obscure) book!

          • Love that you are writ­ing about Hagar!!!!

            I read a bor­rowed copy of Texts of Ter­ror on a camp­ing trip a cou­ple of sum­mers ago. I was so affected by it. I wrote pages and pages in my jour­nal under the trees. Her most trou­bling point to me was how can a divinely inspired text inspired by a benev­o­lent God remain silent on the bru­tal­ity against women? The sto­ries of these women in the OT are told with a glib tone. There is no con­dem­na­tion. Just a mat­ter of fact telling of dis­mem­ber­ment, rape, kidnapping.……

            My good friend Deb­o­rah Loyd (google her!) tells me that though the Bible was writ­ten from a patri­ar­chal cul­ture, it is not a patri­ar­chal book. She helps keep me cen­tered (and she was also my the­ol­ogy coach for my book. Bril­li­aint woman. You’d love her!)

  15. I really like what Rachel said here: What’s inter­est­ing is that the bib­li­cal hero­ine Ruth too is iden­ti­fied as a “woman of valor” (eshet chayil). And she is iden­ti­fied as such before is mar­ried, before she has chil­dren, and before she had a pot to pee in. In fact, you could argue that Ruth had the oppo­site lifestyle of the Proverbs 31 woman, since she was poor, wid­owed, and childless….and yet she too is iden­ti­fied as a “woman of valor.”

    There is some­thing so true about this. Our ideas of a “bib­li­cal woman” (and a “bib­li­cal man”) are way too wrapped up in Amer­i­can church cul­ture, and not enough in Jesus. I mean, we as *humans* should all learn what human­ity means from the per­fect human.

    There are times I dis­agree with Rachel, but I would love to have a beer or a cup of cof­fee with her and talk about those dif­fer­ences. My respect for her has grown in leaps and bounds in the past year, espe­cially with her hav­ing the “balls” to do a project like this. I mean, this was a project. I’m excited to see it get­ting some real attention.

    • Aaron, I think you nailed it when you said that our ideas of bib­li­cal womanhood/​manhood are wrapped up in Amer­i­can church cul­ture. Totally! At my women’s lis­ten­ing party the other night we talked about this very thing. The Indus­trial Rev­o­lu­tion of the early 20th cen­tury affected the role and image of women in Amer­ica and beyond. Like many other things, Amer­i­can (and per­haps most West­ern Chris­tians) mix up our Bible views with our cul­tural lean­ings. It is under­stand­able, but we have to own that and not go around telling one another how to be a true woman or man of God. This is where is gets all kinds of effed up and this is where I think Rachel’s book is rel­e­vant and timely. Just look at the push back (as in that awful slash job at that one guy’s blog. ugh. I still feel a tinge of anger about that…not at him or the com­menters, but at the mean­spirit­ed­ness behind it)

      Thanks for com­ment­ing Aaron —and btw folks, Aaron is my blog’s 911 techie. He has helped me out a LOT, espe­cially lately!! (round of applause!)

  16. I can’t wait to read it! I came to Rachel’s site, and yours, just as I was break­ing away from a comp church. I want to laugh a lit­tle, too! It’s a Godly thing.

    • Hi Susan
      Thanks for read­ing my review. I am encour­aged to hear that you are mak­ing the deci­sion to break away from a com­ple­men­tar­ian church. Have you read my book yet? This might be the per­fect time for you to delve into it, as I think you will find affir­ma­tion for your choice to leave. I didn’t call it Unla­dy­like : Resist­ing the Injus­tice of Inequal­ity in the Church to inspire women to res­ig­na­tion. So glad to hear that you refused to just keep mak­ing nice with it.

      A friend of mine tells me that she was sad to hear that my book was caus­ing peo­ple to leave their church. My response to that is that is makes me sad that women are forced to such deci­sions due to the oppres­sion of their per­son­hood. Her crit­i­cism is directed in the wrong direc­tion. I’m the mes­sen­ger. Not the oppressor!

      Seri­ously. I hope you’ll pick up a copy. If you are finan­cially strapped, email me. I can send you a pdf copy. I’d love for you to have this on the heels of your depar­ture. I hope you find a new com­mu­nity or a new way of doing com­mu­nity that is mean­ing­ful to you and your rela­tion­ship with God. And yes, get Rachel’s book. She is FUNNY!

      • Is it on Ama­zon as an elec­tronic copy? I’m start­ing a library on my iPad, my hus­band will shoot me if I bring another phys­i­cal book into the house. I already found another church that I was attend­ing on Wednes­day nights, and a good group of women to fel­low­ship with. My leav­ing that church was a really long time in the works, my girl­friend who is a psy­chol­o­gist said I knew for a long time that I needed to leave. The Holy Spirit prac­ti­cally pushed me out the door! Some­day I will email my story. I am reluc­tant to blog on it, since if I named names you’d know who I was talk­ing about. It would be too much like gos­sip, and it would hurt a lot of peo­ple. Kathy Esco­bar is doing fea­tures this month about peo­ple who got thrown out of church. I should do one and change the names.

        • Yes. Rachel’s book is not offi­cially released until Oct 30, but you should be able to pre­order a print or Kin­dle ver­sion via Ama­zon. Click the pic­ture on the post for easy access to the Ama­zon page.

          Btw, I have to men­tion that my book is also avail­able on Kin­dle. :) Just search for Unla­dy­like Pam and you will find it.

          Have fun with your elec­tronic library! I got a kin­dle last year and find that I am read­ing more!

  17. The idea of “Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood” is really code for the con­tin­ual oppres­sion of women in the church. When we take the Bible lit­er­ally we tend to give our­selves and oth­ers expec­ta­tions that are unre­al­is­tic and unat­tain­able as a human being. I appre­ci­ate Rachel tak­ing the time to acknowl­edge this and for giv­ing women a voice.

    • Hi Brid­get, yep. I think so, too.

      Was so great to meet you last night. Thanks for com­ing out for the Lis­ten­ing party. You and I need to hang out some­time. I want to know more of your story!

  18. Pam, you for­mu­lated great ques­tions for Rachel, who, in my mind is a woman of courage and valor for writ­ing this impor­tant book. It will undoubt­edly ruf­fle some feath­ers, but I’m hop­ing that those who might be ruf­fled will make the time to read it with a spirit of grace and humil­ity. I have greatly appre­ci­ated Rachel’s strong and coura­geous voice in the blog­ging world and look for­ward to read­ing her book.

    • HI Mar­i­lyn, Thanks for read­ing. She has become an impor­tant voice for women. I love her book and am con­fi­dent it will have far reach­ing results! Let’s plan a cof­fee date and discuss!

  19. I think the idea of the book is fab­u­lous and I am sure the exe­cu­tion is as well. As a sin­gle woman, espe­cially an edu­cated one, I have often won­dered if I’ve been afford a small bless­ing in regards to this idea of “bib­li­cal wom­an­hood.” I already don’t fit into any of the pre­con­ceived moulds, if any­thing I’m the rep­re­sen­ta­tive for every­thing “un-​​biblical woman-​​like” accord­ing to the stereo­types. And yet I have always found the ten­sion of know­ing I was so far beyond the bound­ary of “bib­li­cal wom­an­hood” but at the same time want­ing to belong in some way to. This sum­mer I came to a sim­i­lar epiphany as Rachel, in that the scrip­ture is full of a diverse cho­rus of female voices and expe­ri­ence so maybe it isn’t as nar­row a def­i­n­i­tion as it seems to be. This real­iza­tion came as I read Ruth in Hebrew class, No’omi was this no non­sense woman and she wasn’t afraid to express her hurt and anger against God (that part is lost in the Eng­lish trans­la­tion) and at the same time the depth of her love when she had noth­ing to offer. I think when we con­dense wom­an­hood to one lit­tle cookie cut­ter we strip the beauty given to us by a Cre­ator who sought fit to paint the sun­rises and sun­sets and the inten­tional rela­tion­al­ity in the Son com­ing to save us.

    • Jenn, love how you put this :

      I think when we con­dense wom­an­hood to one lit­tle cookie cut­ter we strip the beauty given to us by a Cre­ator who sought fit to paint the sun­rises and sun­sets and the inten­tional rela­tion­al­ity in the Son com­ing to save us.

      Amen sis­ter! And I’m with you with that feel­ing of being an “unbib­li­cal” woman. A friend of mine (kathy esco­bar) started an ex-​​good chris­t­ian women’s club. I’d join except I was NEVER a good xtian woman! :) Thanks for com­ment­ing here and for shed­ding some more light about Naomi. I cer­tainly did not have that impres­sion of her. Love how you’ve shat­tered my pic­ture of her in swoop of a com­ment. My imag­i­na­tion is perk­ing now!

  20. When I first heard of this idea of the year of Bib­li­cal Wom­an­hood, I was hor­ri­fied. Thank you for review­ing this in a way that shows me I can read the book with­out quak­ing, LOL. I’m look­ing for­ward to read­ing the book!!!

  21. totally and amen, al! I wish I wrote more humor. My mom LOVES it when I do. She was a huge Erma Bombeck fan and intro­duced me to Erma’s writ­ings when I was grow­ing up. Some­times I can nail humor, but it is actu­ally quite hard to write and pull off. Maybe I’ll prac­tice at it more because I think you are so right. Humor is dis­arm­ing and helps us lis­ten to ideas that we might not be open to otherwise.

    Thanks for being such a loyal reader of my blog. Love to you and Dorothy!

  22. That sounds absolutely bril­liant. I am so glad to hear some­one else say the words ‘just be the woman God made you to be’. It took me until I was 34 to fig­ure that out, by God’s grace, and had made me mis­er­able try­ing to live up to other people’s expec­ta­tions. I will read this book asap because I have a goose-​​bumpy feel­ing that it will come in very handy in what­ever my future min­istry will be. I know that — some­how — God is call­ing me to min­is­ter to women who have been as bro­ken as I was, and one of the things bro­ken peo­ple need, in order to heal, is to learn that God made us to be who we are, and that He loves us. This book sounds like it will build on all I have learned, espe­cially when tied in with Julian of Nor­wich (wrote the first book in the Eng­lish lan­guage by a woman, around 1400AD, called the Rev­e­la­tions of Divine Love). Thanks so much for this inter­view, Pam — and for this blog :-D

  23. I have wanted to read this book since I first heard of it, and your inter­view with Rachel has increased my resolve. So some­time soon, if I’m ever caught up with my read­ing for The Seat­tle School, I’ll be jump­ing in. I have alway believed that humor is one of our most pow­er­ful tools for rev­o­lu­tion and social change. Humor usu­ally is based on us tak­ing an hon­est look at who we are and what we do. We can often seem very funny (with some­times tragic results!)